MAXIMUM returning😱

Could Yuuna have fallen in love with Yuuuga

I think yes , we already have a goha yuuga after all

Probability is high on that, also the theory about Yuuga being Ortes makes sense now since this's post to be in the past.

Yuuga been Ortes is basically a certainty.
But Go Rush is an alternate timeline , both timelines are in a weird loop with each other.

So we're back to getting carded?

back to getting carded what do you mean?

In Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters, a lot people were carded by Pegasus and in Yu-Gi-Oh ARC-V, people from the fusion dimension carded a lot of people.
in Yu-Gi-Oh VRAINS instead of getting carded people became data by Revolver.
and now in Yu-Gi-Oh Go Rush, Yuga was carded by Phaser.

ohhhh ok i did watched the duel monsters where their souls got trapped and the Vrains but did not expect the arc v where they got literally carded since i did not watched it yet the arc v

Surely they dropped the idea of Maximums needing to be made by ID cards.

Hopefully they did. It was nothing but nonsense and forcefully restricted in the first show especially becasue FUSION MONSTERS just somehow exists

what do you mean "somehow"? Through a statistical miracle, Luke's comic book hero came to life and his birth created fusions, nothing wrong with that!

i mean, they existed before rush duels in sevens. hell, the first time the "fusion" spell showed up it was outright compared to polymerization.
i wouldn't be surprised if syncros, xyzs and pendulums also existed in the sevens timeline but just never got put into the rush duel format.

Go Rush is set in time before SEVENS so maybe things were changed over time.

Because Yuga brought the knowledge with him.

no ID in my view since the MIK is different

because in this world maximum is already included in rush duel code

And of course to nobody's surprise Yuga has lost WHAT A SHOCK. That is what I am always saying with him getting reduced to a jobber. Imagine YUGI/ATEM was more present in GX and was beaten by Yubel or Darkness. Imagine how much of an absolute shock and how much of a dread it would be to have Atem lose ? Or heck imagine Jaden beating Atem in that duel ? Jaden is literally GX's protagonist and It would STILL be a massive feat If he had defeated Atem. But here we have the protagonist of the previous show is defeated by a villain and it was barely any weight to it because He has already lost to pretty much EVERYONE. Beating a protagonist was supposed to be the biggest achievement a character could get. Something that can build up someone as an immense threat. But Yuga has long dirtied that honor and him getting defeated means nothing anymore. If only they had him not lose to anyone for no reason, so much of his loses didn't need to exist at all.

Anyway now I want to talk a bit about Yuna. It appears from the opening and the preview that She might have a new deck and she might actually be in love with Yuga. I am sad that she changes decks as I always found it nice that She used Yuga's deck and ace monster so it is sad to see her changing it (I know Yuga has the deck kinda but If I am not mistaken he had 2 Sevens road at the end of Sevens so He could have a deck while Yuna still has Sevens road not to mention they could just make more) I think it would have be A LOT more meaningful to have her continue using Yuga's deck since It is now even more implied that he is someone very dear to him. Anyway I am actually hyped about that being explored and hopefully it will be used good. She doesn't have to be in love with him either but their relationship appears to be much more closer at least from Yuna's part and that has very good potential.

Yuna is a character I like, I think she is a great character with high potential that is sadly mostly wasted by her utter simping for Rovian who hardly actually interacts with her (seriously has Rovian ever replied her back ? I know they have a nice relationship but it feels too one sided)

Her relationship with Yuga has so much potential to explore and give her more depth and bigger and better motivations not to mention If she is in love with him it can lead to a good drama since we know Yuga is gonna leave at one point. I also always wanted to see her duel more so I hope she beats Manabu and continues to have a more relevant dueling role

Jaden vs Yugi was a weird experience for me. I anticipated to be like Gold/Crystal vs Red where the past protagonist relinquish the baton for the next generation. Instead it was more helping Jaden reclaiming what he had lost. Then the duel cuts off in a cliffhanger even though clearly Yugi won.

actually yeah no realistically jaden would win. He even used his win catchphrase. And honestly even getting that far against prime yugi with yami destiny draw and the egyptian gods is absolutely insane, it would be like fighting red with mewtwo and the birds

To be fair even If Yugi won that would be because Jaden seemingly to attack with Neos for no reason. If Jaden does not attack Slifer goes back to grave next turn leaving the duel truely unfinished as there is no clear victor

Yuna is great. No idea where you got the idea that the protagonist must always be the best duelist from tho.

It is not about being the best duelist (though it is logical of them to be the best at the end of their show) It is about how much he lost for little reason that beating him lost all meaning, shock value and opponent build up value

Even in Sevens It was IMPACTFUL when Nail defeated Yuga as it was his second loss and first lost for like 20 episodes but then He lost to Asana then Romin then Luke then Yugo then Luke AGAIN for no reason then Tiger THEN Roa.... At a certain point beating Yuga became NOTHING special, nothing valuable. Beating Yuga stopped being that much of an achievement and became a norm. Majority of those could have not exist at all and there would be little problem and yet the show just allowed anyone to crush Yuga under their feet to get a win so when Phaser here defeats the literal main protagonist of a previous show It is not even surprising or anything crazy. EVERYONE expected this loss, everyone saw it coming and it hardly matters because Yuga losing is nothing to care about anymore and that is just pathetic

Yuga was never built up to being a good duelist in the first place, so it's great that he loses. On the contrary, Yuma is a trash protagonist because he was built up to be a trash duelist who was on like a 0-40 lose streak in episode 1, then proceeds to basically win every single duel.

Meaningless. Yuma has a good record, not too much lose and not too less lose. He was a bad duelist and learned his way through experience. That can't be said for Yuga because he was not only that bad in the beginning and yet then he proceeded to lose to everyone like a clown. You don't watch a random background character A or some volleyball player in a soccer anime do you ? You watch the protagonist who is supposed to be good at football or learn to be good at football. The protagonist of a card game anime that is about beating your opponents being a dueling clown who gets trashed on by everyone is a disgrace. Yuga was nothing but a failure who trashed on the legacy of the previous protagonists who actually had beating them in a duel as an achievement.

You are assuming the show must follow the traditional hero's journey story structure, but Seven's brilliance is its brave departure from this Shonen norm so we could follow the novel and interesting inventor's journey. Winning or losing for Yuga is secondary to him successfully changing the world or not. Even if it takes being a martyr to achieve it. I actually find Yuga too competent, which would be my main complaint.

Yuma's wins were not deserved at all. The only thing that changed between him being the worst duelist in town to the best duelist in the universe is getting Astral, Number 39, and Zexal powers but since he never listens to Astral, it means we could have followed any random scrub who was compatible with fate to use Number 39 and Zexal.

Someone can be an inventor without being a clown who gets defeated by anyone and everyone. I am not saying he should have won all of his duels, that is bad too. But he lost too much for no reason that beating him became unimportant. This is the PROTAGONIST of the previous show literally getting defeated by a new antagonist. Have this happen to any other protagonist and it would have be the craziest thing ever and the Antagonist would be so F ing threatening for that achievement meanwhile with Yuga, literally everyone expected this loss and it is nothing groundbreaking because everyone knew that he was gonna lose for sure and that makes things meaningless because his defeat was supposed to be important and build up Phaser but it can't because Yuga losing like this is a norm, it is nothing special. Beating him is literally no achievement, it doesn't make Phaser that much better of an antagonist or a duelist because the same thing happened all the time with Yuga that beating him doesn't even matter anymore and that is lame for a protagonist of a card game.

You are just excusing his pitiful loses which a good portion of them were NOT needed at all. Once again I am not saying he should have never lost but he lost too much that he lost all credibility. You know a protagonist suck when all the watchers knew that they would surely lose to a guy that is just introduced without any build up. That is just pitiful, he dirtied the biggest achievement a rival or antagonist can have, beating the protagonist, because him losing is literally nothing important.

And you should rewatch Zexal LOL

Although Yuga is the protagonist, it's like if the story followed Pegasus as the protagonist rather than Yugi. Pegasus win record in the show is like what? 1W 4L?

I do think being an inventor and losing heaps was good for the story. It's a good usage of "show, don't tell". We didn't get exposition on Yuga's motivations but we know them based on how he acted when he lost. Compared to 5D's where Yusei was the inventor/scientist/mechanic/leader/best duelist of the team, they had to use "because plot" such as making the WRPG a team tournament to keep the rest of the cast relevant, since Yusei eclipsed all of the rest of the main cast in every single way. Yuga is the inventor, Luke is the best duelist, Gakuto is the leader, Romin is finally a female character with a good track record amongst the sea of trash female duelists in previous series. The entire cast is naturally kept relevant "at the expense of Yuga", where it the expense is not relevant to his character is good. Having Jack, who has already made up his mind to become the best duelist lose to Yusei in the final duel is actually quite detrimental to Jack's character. Yusei's final decision and development was done at the actual expense of Jack's character and is a ceremonial duel that did not need to happen since Yusei could have had his revelation in any other way.

And that is why DM's protagonist is NOT Pegasus. And he could never be. Simple. Yes Pegasus's dueling record is not good and he was not a good duelist at all as without the cheating of the millenium eye he couldn't even have defeat Kaiba BUT unlike the clown that is Yuga, Pegasus is NOT the protagonist. If he was the show would be nowhere near as good.

And wow after Zexal I thought your takes couldn't get worst but imagine claiming that Yusei winning the last duel is ''for the expense of Jack'' LOL yeah sure just because Jack's goal was to beat Yusei he has to beat him and otherwise his ENTIRE character and all of his development which included him getting humbled and stopped being obsessed with being the very best is wasted. What a poor understanding.

But I guess it is normal for a sevens fan like you to think that way as Sevens had trash characters like Luke where he just doesn't lose despite his negative IQ just because he had the dream of being the best and would be an absolute worthless nobody of a character If he was not the best duelist. Actual development was appearently too hard for you to understand :D And NO Yuga doesn't need to be a clown for Romin, Gakuto and Luke to be used well. Even Luke could still be the best duelist for the majority of the show without Yuga losing to everyone

Plenty of other shows has done spin-off series or entire seasons where they follow a different character as the protagonist. It is not entirely inconceivable for a show about the creation of the game to follow Pegasus despite his poor dueling record, as it would not be a series about becoming the king of games. Seems like literally the only thing you need to do is flip in your mind who the protagonist is since you cannot accept change. Try watching Sevens again and pretend they labelled the titles wrong and Luke is actually the protagonist. Seems like it'd solve all your problems. Also I don't understand why you consider Luke a nobody. He is the best duelist in school so it is obvious he is supposed to be better than Yuga just like Zane beating Jaden. If Go Rush recontexualises Luke as a descendant of Luge and the origins of Luke Devil then that makes him even less of a nobody. From a young age he created The☆Lukeman as well, sounds like a destined child much alike Jaden creating Yubel as a kid to me. On top of that he is driven to be the duel king and is willing to take the risk of 7 penalty to achieve his goals. That is a dangerous combination that deserves a flawless win record if you ask me.

Also what is wrong with you never seeing One Piece before? I know length is not an issue for you since the 9 YGO series together is more episodes than all of One Piece.

You barely read anything that is for sure. A spin off for Pegasus for what ? If a spin off for Pegasus will be yet another yugioh season that will have its own problems and antagonists that will have to be solved with dueling then Pegasus will also have to stand up and be a better duelist. If the show is not about the card game itself to the extent yugioh is and there are no clear antagonists and duels that decide things than that is a different story. Yugioh is about the card game and the game is used for deciding and battling EVERYTHING. A protagonist that loses all the time doesn't work especially when they just continue to use him as a fodder to everyone as If beating him has any value anymore. The writers act like beating Yuga is a feat but it is not. That is their failure in writing and treatment

And NO Luke is not only not the protagonist but also him being the protagonist doesn't solve anything. A win lose record should be healthy and the main character should get enough development and change. Luke never lost until the very end. Despite his negative IQ he had stupid amount of plot armor that made him win all of his duels which made his duels boring and predictable and annoying. Similarly Yuga's loses are also boring and annoying and even predictable as everyone knew Phaser was gonna win. Anyway Luke was also a lame character in general that had nothing going on for him except his dueling ability desire to become number 1. You mistake that as being a good character just because he managed to become number one and disrespect Jack and his character just because Yusei beat him but nope. Just as I said everything needs a good balance. A good character, good writing, good wins and good loses. Nothing too much, nothing too less. Yuga lost too much and was worthless in dueling, Luke lost too less and was too worthless of a character other than dueling

Yuga's record is like 17-8 throughout Sevens. That's a very respectable 70% win rate similar to the best pros in real life, certainly far higher than yours so if Yuga is worthless then what are you?

If the antagonist beats the protagonist with 70% win rate, then the threat level simply means beyond the protagonist with 70% win rate. No idea how you draw the conclusion that beating a protagonist with 70% win rate is meaningless. If Yuga is an average duelist, then it simply means the antagonist is at least an above average duelist.

Yuga losing to Phaser is not predictable because of Yuga, but because they can't have a guest character solving all the problems so they had to write Yuga out of the show somehow.

Luke is a genius and deserves all the success he's gotten. You are contradicting yourself because according to you a character's worth is only dependent on their win rate, so Luke must either be your favourite character or you're just full of shit.

He has 9 loses in Sevens alone which means he has lost once in every 10 episode despite the fact that after the first season he was barely dueling more than 2 times in a season. 9 straight up on screen serious lose is WAY MORE than any Yugioh protagonist has ever had and that is with the fact that He has dueled less than most of them. You can try to act all you want, after one point his loses started to be anything important. It no longer held any meaning nor made the antagonist threatening. Yuga losing just became an overused cliche to build up a character despite it lost its ability to actually build up anyone and yet the writers just continued to use it despite its meaninglessness. And ''If Yuga is an average duelist, then it simply means the antagonist is at least an above average duelist'' Being above average is literally nothing for the antagonist of an arc. Just them being antagonists should mean that they are at least above average so beating Yuga means absolutely NOTHING based on your own words.

''Luke is a genius'' LMAO xddddd. Luke was a freakin dumbass with the brain capacity lower than a literal pigeon. He was the buff of so many jokes because of his poor brain and clownery that it was uncountable. His only saving grace until the last season (he at least showed great care in his friends and did good things which at least made him a bit better) was his dueling ability which was forced as the writers refused to make him lose no matter how stupid it was for him to win. As I said before this is probably why you have such poor understanding of characters. You call Jack losing to Yusei, wasting his character despite Jack LITERALLY started as Duel king and learned to be humble and good. His character developed beyond being duel king and while He did wanted to beat Yusei but not beating him was not bad for his character nor wasted him. But since you love these lame kid shows so much and it has characters like Luke where his entire character would be useless If he was not the supreme duelist he wanted to be, you think that a character has to get all their desires or otherwise they are wasted. Too shallow LOL

''. You are contradicting yourself because according to you a character's worth is only dependent on their win rate'' NO you are proving that you do not have the mental capacity to read a single shit. Not surprised. If you bothered to pay the single bit of attention (though If you could do that I guess you wouldn't excuse these disgrace to the Yugioh's name ) I said MULTIPLE times that a good character is a BALANCED character. Not too many lose but not too less lose. If a character never loses they can't develop much and their duels will be stagnate. But If they lose too much then they will lose all their credibility and them losing will stop being anything noteworthy and anyone else who accomplish that feat will prove nothing which is not something you should have with your protagonist. Yuga is a dueling clown meanwhile Luke was a clown CHARACTER wise and he had stupid amount of plot armor that didn't allow him to lose until the very end despite his negative IQ. Combined with his cringe personality, majority of his duels were damn boring and painful to watch as a result Which is a HUGE shame because these could all be solved so easily.

Yuga had many loses he could have not lost at all. And even beyond that Luke was right there. As I said before beating Yuga meant NOTHING after a while yet the writers still tried to use that which is writing failure and the writers not acknowledging and still acting like beating Yuga is a big deal. INSTEAD of Yuga they could just give 1-2 of these loses to Luke and EVERYTHING would have be so much better. Yuo could have be the one to beat Luke with his fusion and then Luke goes to that forest or whatever to train after he is shaken by that loss. Beating Luke would have give Yuo an ACTUAL victory worthy of something unlike the clown that is Yuga and then Lukeman returning and beating Yuo in a revenge duel would have be so much more climatic and meaningful as a result and it would also make Lukeman more of a threat because Yuo beat Luke and then Yuga beating Lukeman would mean more as well AND this also gives reasoning for their lame ass unneeded random third duel because Luke wanting to duel Yuga after Yuga beat Lukeman who defeated Yuo who defeated him makes so much more sense. But of course there is no such thing because always had to be the clown despite him losing stopped meaning anything and Luke never lost despite HIM losing would make someone way more threatening and legit than Yuga ever could and would work wonders for Luke's lame character as well

Seems like you can't read. I never said Jack's character was wasted, he is still my favourite character, just that his final loss was a detriment to his character. Now that is a way better example of a loss that did not need to happen, rather than all of Yuga's losses. 1 loss per 10 episodes is a great record and the show is not attempting to hype anyone by them beating Yuga. Apart from his win against Otes in episode 1, there was nothing else in the series to suggest that Yuga was at a level where beating him was a great accomplishment. You said a balanced character was a good character, however since we are talking about protagonists and the fact that you balance a protagonist at undefeatable to near undefeated record, we can just ignore everything you said regarding balanced. From very early on it was obvious that Luke was being set up to be Yuga's main obstacle if he were to go for the title of duel king. Yuga is the underdog so narratively it is great that Yuga's win rate is much lower than Luke's. Luke was the best duelist in school, so he had a head start, he wanted the title of duel king much more than Yuga did and his duel was constantly improving and never stagnating. Joey was also a "negative IQ butt of all jokes" character with a ridiculous win record, except Joey is a trash character since he does it with only luck whereas Luke does it with pure skill.

Hahahahahahaha Imagine claiming that Yusei ve Jack last duel which is filled with good and epic moments and so much good dialouge is a more uneeded lose than the likes of Yuga vs Luke round 3 which was completely useless or Yuga vs Tiger LOL dream on.

Losing once every 10 episode where you basically duel twice in those 10 episode most of the time is TRASH. Not to mention a good portion of the wins are against meaningless characters too. No Protagonist has even come close to such an utterly pathetic dueling record where winning against them was no longer an achivement. You can’t accept the simple fact that Yuga could STILL be a worse duelist than Luke without being the most pathetic duelist clown ever. Most of his loses could be avoided. He could lose like 5-6 times instead of freakin 9 which is very easy to do considering how many of his loses are utterly meaningless and it would make everything a lot better. But nope instead the writers constantly used him as a way to build up another character by having them beat him which meant NOTHING after a while but they refused to acknowledge and continued which is their pitiful writing.

But you being the fan boy you are just continue to act like the Yuga being a dueling clown is a good thing or him losing doesn’t need to be an achivement despite it is presented like an achivement despite it is not. You just can’t acknowledge the mistakes of the shows like the fan boy you are. I am not even saying he should have be invincible or he should have had a better dueling record than Luke but NOPE. You can’t even allow a single point of valid criticism to be made against your precious trash kid show. Just pathetic

You can deny all you want the fact is the fact. Yuga was nothing but a pathetic clown with too many uneeded loses that meant NOTHING. Neither he or the character he beat gained NOTHING from those loses and that is pitifully bad writing. So many of those loses could be avoided and/or 1-2 of them could be given to Luke, allowing him to develop as well and making the person who beat Luke look like an ACTUAL threat but instead all we had was the nothing they gained from beating Yuga. No wonder Sevens’ villains was the most pathetic and useless villains in the entire franchise with not even a single good villain when the protagonist himself is trash and they are only allowed to beat him LOL

Like you are literally saying nothing worth considering here. Who decided that a protagonist must lose exactly 5-6 times to be a good protagonist? Who decided that the deuteragonist must lose exactly 1-2 times to be a good deuteragonist? Who decided that Yuga must be compared to the protagonists of 6 other unrelated shows in terms of win rate? What gave you the impression that Yuga is being used to hype up those who beat him? When did I say I can't accept Yuga being a worse duelist that Luke under other circumstances? What indicated I am a fan boy and what even is a fan boy to begin with? I see dueling clown is being used as a derogatory word here, why is that? when Yuya literally strived to be a dueling clown? How did you come to the conclusion that I could not allow a single point of valid criticism when you have not yet given a single point of valid criticism? What does epic moments have to do with good or bad story writing?

You see, everything you say is just built on arbitrary assumptions based on your own head canon on what an ideal character looks like. You keep repeating the same fluff, but if I'm writing it off as non-arguments the first time, I am going to keep writing them off no matter how many times you say it. You are the only one who sees what you say as criticism because you are the only person who values very niche specific arbitrary things such as the exact number of duels lost by a character.

Then you can simply ignore it. You do not accept my criticism and just write it off each time without any valuable answer. Just denial. Then just ignore. If you truely think that what I say has no value and is not true then you can just ignore but. But you can’t because you are a pitiful fan boy who can’t handle seeing this disgrace to Yugioh’s name being criticized and has to deny it.

You have the face to blame me for repeating when what you do is exactly the same. You can only deny what I say based on what YOU think. What YOU think doesn’t make my criticism invalid yet you think that is the case. So what you can do is pretty simple. If you claim that my criticisms are bullshit then IGNORE and continue to worship this trash elementary school kid show without minding my “wrong” comments. You can even block me If It is hard. But instead you try to shut me up and repeat your useless denial because you know that it is true so it angers you and make you feel like you have to shut it down and reject it LOL You are nothing but a hypocrite clown. If you are not then you can ignore it. But as we see you can’t :D

I mean in case you haven't noticed, I have been ignoring most of what you say. It's only now that I kindly explain this to you since you asked why am I not responding to some of the things you say. Again, I haven't denied much of what you said, since you haven't said much of substance that is even at a deniable level in the first place.

Heck Even the fact that you made claims like “based on your comments you should like Luke” despite I said many times before that a win/lose rate should be balanced goes to show that you don’t read anything. You just can’t accept anything bad said against your kid show no matter how true it is and make yourself think that I am wrong to cope.

Now hopefully you can bother to use that brain of yours that is wasted with only watching kid shows for the first time in your life and IGNORE my criticisms If you think that they are wrong. What YOU think doesn’t make my points wrong nor can stop me from giving my thoughts. If you honestly think that they are bullshit there is no reason to answer. By trying to shut me down you are only proving you are a fan boy

I gave many explanations to the pitiful writings of this show and why it is bad. You just deny it with meaningless excuses and act like it is the truth. According to you the protagonist of a card game anime can be the most pathetic clown ever with so many unneeded loses and it is no problem 😂 or the second most important character can be a brainless joker with stupid amount of plot armor and has no character other than his dueling ability. YET you reject BOTH of these points and try to excuse it. And then claim Jack’s lose against Yusei is a more uneeded lose than Yuga’s LMAO or Joey is worse than Luke. Not to mention giving Zexal a 2 and you delude yourself to think you are right LOL You are nothing but a Pitiful fan boy clown who is a disgrace to Yugioh just like these last 2 shows. Because It appears that a show needs to be elementary school level for you to be able to understand it

It's 2023, so yes the protagonist can be a clown and the deuteragonist can be a joker. Just like how your mum can be a man and your dad can be a trans. There have never been hard rules in writing.

Spare the disgusting examples. 2023 is not some special year where utter trash animes and writing somehow become acceptable

Isn't upping the stakes by having the previous protagonist lose to the new antagonist the most normal thing ever in shonen? There is no reason to build up Phaser as a very good duelist. At this point all we know he is just a regular human with the only thing dangerous about him should be his racist ideology, which is a foil to our protagonists, who are humans and aliens getting along with each other. Being an unsurmountable duelist would not be a foil to our protagonists at this point, since we just established with Yudias successfully reuniting the galaxy by losing the final duel. Sure, a lot of Yuga's losses could have not existed, but they also could exist. Doesn't really matter too much for the story being told.

Not going to rewatch Zexal. Such a pain to get through, it's like 1 of 10 anime I've ever rated 2/10. Everything apart from the high budget visuals simply did not work.

''Isn't upping the stakes by having the previous protagonist lose to the new antagonist the most normal thing ever in shonen'' It doesn't even work here because beating the clown that is Yuga can't one up a single stake. Because it is already a norm that he would lose to anyone and everyone, just as I said beating him is meaningless and doesn't mean shit which is pathetic

''There is no reason to build up Phaser as a very good duelist'' LMAO dude your pitiful excuses just get stupider and stupider. ''There is no reason to build up the SEASON'S VILLAIN as a good duelist in this DUEL BASED ANIME. Are you even aware that you are watching YUGIOH ? A card game anime ? This show is about a card game first and foremost. Its entire plot and entire system revolves around dueling. No matter how much you try to reject a character's worth is directly related to their dueling ability, it is not everything but it is MAJORITY. Because the majority of this show is about dueling

So by saying there is no reason to build Phaser as a good duelist you are basically saying that he doesn't need to be a good villain because this show IS about duels and an antagonist that is not a good duelist would be nothing but a freakin joke. Just like Akaba Leo was and Goha 66 was in Sevens.

At this point it is clear to me that you will defend every bullshit this kid show does no matter how many bullshit you have to utter because you are just that much of a fan boy. And it is even more clear that you don't understand Yugioh and watch this disgrace to Yugioh for its lame elementary school comedy and not for actual Yugioh since you are claiming that BOTH its Protagonist AND Antagonist having no reason to be good at the VERY thing this show is literally about.

It is quite obvious that what "Yugioh" is changes every 3 series. There is no sense in trying to fit the current 3 into the original 3's mold. The current generation is praiseworthy for exactly everything you said - that is going against the shonen norm. Seems like your criteria for how good it a series is based on how similar it is compared to the original series. Wake up dude, we're on the 8th series already.

A good antagonist should be a foil to the protagonist in so many ways, although for action/shonen it is nice to have a strong antagonist purely for the spectacle. You'd be shitting on antagonists like Bakura (YGO), Bellamy (OP), Hordy (OP), Ginjo (Bleach), Lex Luthor (DC) simply because the protagonist can easily beat them. Besides, this Yuga doesn't even have a bad record. If we assume Go Rush takes place after the Otes duel, then Yuga's most recent record is an Otes win, a probable Luke win (previously undefeated), a Luge win then a Damamu draw.

Bakura was a joke until Zorc dunno who the hell the next 2 are, Ginjo was not that much of an easy win and is a ''rival'' not a villain and Luthor is a threat. Changes is not the matter, in an anime that is ENTIRELY about a card game and where the said game is used for all the battles and choices an antagonist has the requirement to be a good duelist. That is literally a fact. An antagonist that can't be good at duels cannot serve as a good antagonist as literally every important thing is decided by duels.

The same goes for Protagonist. A protagonist who always loses to each villain is just lame. After a while the protagonist losing to a villain loses ALL meaning. Yuga doesn't get developed enough, he just continues to lose and lose and lose. His duel against Phaser was literally the third time someone just summoned a Maximum and beat him. The series TRIES to use him as a fodder to build up villains or characters but that DOESN'T work because he has no credibility left for beating him to be an achievement. He has 10 freakin lose for gods sake, one more lose and he will tie with Chazz for the character that has the MOST loses in the entire yugioh franchise. And when you try to use a character let alone a Protagonist to build up others all the time you are not only wasting the said character but also it doesn't even work after a while and that is a FAIL. You act like they do the right thing and it is logical for Yuga to lose all the time. It is nowhere even close. Not only majority of his loses were meaningless and could not have happened but also it is very clear that the show tries to act like him losing is a deal despite it lost its value ages ago. And that is a writing failure just like how you can claim a character is ''smart'' only for that character to not sound,act and think smart at all

Yugioh has not been "ENTIRELY" about a card game since the first series. That was actually about the invention of the game, and its ramifications including its past ties with the protagonist. Gx is just a coming of age story that just happens to be set in a school setting. Vrains is a story about the invention of AI that just happen to be created by kids playing a dueling sim. Dueling is just replaces battles in this particular battle shonen, so any character who are weak in battle in any shonen is equivalent to being a bad duelist in YGO, which according to you would be trash characters that serve no purpose in the story. As are any bad players in any sports show. Yuga's loss definitely serves a purpose even outside of a narrative standpoint. In a pure powerscaling standpoint, Yuga and Yudias just beat 2 Luges and we know Luge was able to beat Rovian and London, who's level we also have some idea of based on who they beat and who those characters beat. So now we know Phaser is somewhere higher than that level. Maybe a little, maybe a lot.

Yugioh's main point, reason of existence and the way that EVERY THREAT EXISTS AND EVERY PROBLEM IS SOLVED is entirely dependent on Yugioh. This is a card game anime about a card game that solves everything with a card game. Characters' abilities and performance in the same card game is directly related to their worth as a character this is a fact like it or not. Just like a football player is worthy for his football ability and performance, a card game anime charater's worth comes from their ability in the said card game. Otherwise they start -100 already. I am not saying it is impossible to be a good character, Akira Zaizen was a good character despite 2 loses but he could be the literal VERY BEST character maybe except Revolver If not for his record. His dueling record negatively effected his worth a lot and he is not even the protagonist.

Yuga is not that bad of a character but he is a failure wasted of a protagonist and the sad thing is that it didn't have to be that way. His lose against Luke round 3, lose against Tiger and many other loses didn't need to exist at all. They just wasted him to try to build up all other characters and FAILED on top of it because beating him could no longer build anyone anymore after a while. Simply pathetic

You should correct your wrong interpretation of "Yugioh's main point". It severely hinders your enjoyment and understanding of the show. I guess Tristan is a completely worthless character even though he saved Yugi from a burning house. I guess a captain's leadership qualities is worthless because it is not a football ability.

Yes Tristan is indeed worthless. Joey alone could save Yugi he didn’t and doesn’t need to exist.

You should stop kidding yourself to defend this elemental school kid show’s bad writing and stop acting like this show doesn’t exist for the sole reason of the card game. YES a card game anime’s main point is a card game DUH 😂 but I guess you watch this for the lame comedy

Better than you watching it solely to write a paragraph each week to hate on it as if 20 minutes of something you don't like isn't enough.